Dr. Jane Goodall and Cal Fussman (#743)
This episode is a two-for-one, and that’s because the podcast recently hit its 10-year anniversary and passed one billion downloads. To celebrate, I’ve curated some of the best of the best—some of my favorites—from more than 700 episodes over the last decade. I could not be more excited. The episode features segments from episode #421 “ Dr. Jane Goodall — The Legend, The Lessons, The Hope ” and episode #145 “ The Interview Master: Cal Fussman and the Power of Listening .”
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#743: Dr. Jane Goodall and Cal Fussman
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SHOW NOTES
[04:48] Notes about this supercombo format.
[05:51] Enter Dr. Jane Goodall.
[06:19] Connecting with Louis Leakey and becoming his secretary.
[09:43] Gaining acceptance among chimpanzees.
[13:09] Primate personalities, compassion, and the story of Old Man saving Marc Cusano.
[17:34] Observations of chimpanzee compassion and violence, and inferences about human nature.
[19:19] Explaining variance in chimpanzee attitudes toward dominance.
[20:55] Cultivating hope to overcome apathy.
[26:19] Mr. H, Gary Haun, the indomitable human spirit, and overcoming adversity.
[29:37] Dr. Goodall’s billboard.
[31:20] Enter Cal Fussman.
[32:56] Quincy Jones’ unique book signing practice.
[34:19] Cal’s pivotal childhood moment.
[38:55] Deconstructing the skill of asking great questions.
[42:43] Contrasting interview styles from different life stages.
[48:25] University of Missouri Journalism’s role in Cal’s career.
[52:24] Drinking with Hunter S. Thompson and Johnny Depp.
[55:45] Cal’s start in international travel (and my family trip to Iceland).
[1:06:34] How a single question got Cal six months of lodging.
[1:14:45] Common mistakes and lessons learned about the art of asking questions.
[1:23:30] Honing the ability to tell stories.
[1:27:11] A life-changing event at the end of Cal’s travels.
[1:31:43] Perfecting the conversational interview.
[1:33:43] Speaking at Summit at Sea.
[1:46:15] What Mikhail Gorbachev taught Cal about the art of the interview.
[1:55:45] Boxing Julio César Chávez.
[2:30:31] Why Alex Banayan and George Foreman define success for Cal.
[2:42:58] Most gifted books.
[2:49:47] Favorite documentaries and movies.
[2:55:37] Cal’s billboard.
[2:56:08] Advice to Cal’s 30-year-old self.
[2:59:05] Overcoming writer’s block with Harry Crews’ advice.
[3:18:56] Parting thoughts.
SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
Connect with The Jane Goodall Institute :
Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
Connect with Roots & Shoots :
Website | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
Leakey and Goodall: Scientists Who Changed How We Define ‘Human’ | Jane Goodall’s Good for All News
Gombe Stream National Park | Global Alliance of National Parks
Jane | Prime Video
Flo, Flint, David, and Goliath: The Famous Chimps of Gombe | Jane Goodall’s Good for All News
Compassion: The Chimpanzee Who Saved a Life | Lessons for Hope
Drive-Through Safari | Lion Country Safari
Some Apes Jane Goodall Studied Fought a Years-Long War | AV Club
Did Jane Goodall Compare Donald Trump’s Actions to Primate Dominance Behavior? | Snopes
The Power of One by Jane Goodall | Time
The Shocking River Fire That Fueled the Creation of the EPA | History
15 Animal Species Miraculously Saved from Extinction | BestLife
Jane Goodall Always Travels with a Stuffed Animal Named Mr. H to Remind Her of the ‘Indomitable Human Spirit’ | CNBC
Blind Artist: Introspective and Memory Recollections: Introspective and Memory Recollections by Gary J. Haun | Amazon
Richard Turner — The Magical Phenom Who Will Blow Your Mind | The Tim Ferriss Show #411
Best of What I’ve Learned | Esquire
Big Books: Esquire: The Meaning of Life: Wit, Wisdom, and Wonder From 65 Extraordinary People | The Austin Chronicle
The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert Caro | Amazon
The Path to Power: The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert A. Caro | Amazon
Did Muhammad Ali Throw His Olympic Gold Medal into the Ohio River? | Sports Detectives, Smithsonian Channel
“Just Take Me to Jail:” Remembering Muhammad Ali’s Refusal to Fight in Vietnam | Democracy Now
Muhammad Ali’s Astounding Bursts of Physical Brilliance by Cal Fussman | Esquire
Missouri School of Journalism | University of Missouri
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas | Prime Video
Monpazier, Dordogne: One of the Most Beautiful Villages in France | North of the Dordogne
The Northern Lights in Iceland | Visit Iceland
Your Next Adventure Is At Our Doorstep | Hotel Rangá
Founded 1975 | Llywelyn’s Pub
Dorf Tirol/Tirolo in South Tyrol | Instagram
On Finding a Lost Ezra Pound Poem in a Castle | The Paris Review
What Is Goulash? | Cooking School
The Five Best Things to Do in Kiskunhalas | Tripadvisor
Stay with Locals and Meet Travelers | Couchsurfing
Sting Explains That Whole Tantric Sex Thing | VCR
Fortaleza, Brazil: All You Must Know Before You Go | Tripadvisor
What I’ve Learned: The Meaning of Life According to 65 Artists, Athletes, Leaders & Legends by Esquire | Amazon
Summit at Sea
3,000 Millennials on a Cruise Ship: An Insider’s Look into Summit at Sea 2015 by Loic Le Meur | Medium
The Art of the Interview by Cal Fussman by Loic Le Meur | Medium
The Promise of a Pencil: How an Ordinary Person Can Create Extraordinary Change by Adam Braun | Amazon
Dr. Dre: What I’ve Learned by Cal Fussman | Esquire
Mikhail Gorbachev: What I’ve Learned by Cal Fussman | Esquire
Every Journey Starts with “What If…?” by Cal Fussman | Medium
Rocky | Prime Video
Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Roberto Duran 2 Full Fight | Batman Boxing
When I Was 19 Years Old… by Alex Banayan | Instagram
Foreman vs. Frazier at 50: Revisiting the Shocking, Iconic Heavyweight Title Fight | Andscape
Ali vs Foreman: Rope-A-Dope Explained | The Modern Martial Artist
Moorer vs. Foreman | Fight Source
Books by Cal Fussman | Amazon
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez | Amazon
Between the World and Me by Ta-Nehisi Coates | Amazon
Speak Like Churchill, Stand Like Lincoln: 21 Powerful Secrets of History’s Greatest Speakers by James Humes | Amazon
Ronald Reagan | NAB Broadcasting Hall of Fame
11 Fireside Chats (F. Roosevelt) | The American Presidency Project
Cinema Paradiso | Prime Video
Man on Wire | Prime Video
The Walk | Prime Video
The Intern | Prime Video
‘The Walk’ Morpheus VR Experience Makes You Wire Walk Between the Twin Towers | Road to VR
Chimpanzee Politics: Power and Sex Among Apes by Frans de Waal | Amazon
Sideways | Prime Video
A Feast of Snakes: A Novel by Harry Crews | Amazon
Car: A Novel by Harry Crews | Amazon
The Complete Guide to the Alexander Technique
The Barbecue! Bible by Steven Raichlen | Amazon
Drinking at 1,300 Ft: A 9/11 Story About Wine and Wisdom by Cal Fussman | Esquire
Louis Leakey
Mary Leakey
David Greybeard
Old Man
Marc Cusano
Frodo
Fifi
Freud
Goblin
Mr. H
Gary Haun
Mikhail Gorbachev
James Carter
Ted Kennedy
Jeff Bezos
Richard Branson
Jack Welch
Robert De Niro
Clint Eastwood
Al Pacino
George Clooney
Leonardo DiCaprio
Tom Hanks
Bruce Springsteen
Drew Pinsky
Quincy Jones
Woody Allen
Barbara Walters
Pelé
Yao Ming
Serena Williams
John Wooden
Muhammad Ali
Larry King
Obi-Wan Kenobi
John F. Kennedy
Lyndon B. Johnson
Robert Caro
Juanita D. Roberts
Edward Norton
Carmelo Anthony
Julio César Chávez
Hunter S. Thompson
Johnny Depp
Frank Deford
Gary Smith
David Halberstam
John A. Walsh
Toni Morrison
Donald Trump
Wolfgang Puck
Dr. Dre
Ezra Pound
Harry Crews
George Foreman
Joe Frazier
Pernell Whitaker
Michael Moorer
Angelo Dundee
Ronda Rousey
Thomas Hearns
Harold Weston, Jr.
Juan Laporte
José Sulaimán
Roberto Durán
Sugar Ray Leonard
Mike Tyson
Alex Banayan
Gabriel García Márquez
Petra Němcová
Adam Braun
Leroy Moorehead
David M. Granger
Ta-Nehisi Coates
James C. Humes
Ronald Reagan
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Sting
Billy Joel
Christie Brinkley
Philippe Petit
Robert Zemeckis
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Tiger Woods
Jesus
Newt Gingrich
Steven Raichlen
Jack LaLanne
Michael Buffer
Jocko Willink
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